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Dr Slurm
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Posted - 2007.10.17 03:57:00 -
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First off: Who are you and why should you be trusted?
Do you have any form of security for this investment?
Do you have any plan if you are somehow incapacitated and unable to play EVE?
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Originally by: Anne Temple APEX will limit dividend payments at 12.5% of IPO price until 10,000.00 ISK in dividends has been paid per share, at this point the option of buyback or continued expansion will be investigated.
Does this mean you only plan to payback the initial investment? What is the incentive for the investor here? If you do expand won't that devalue the stock of current shareholders? What kind of actual profit can an investor expect from this? <sig>
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Posted - 2007.10.17 04:47:00 -
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Originally by: Anne Temple First, to clarify what I thought was already clear I am an alt and this is an alt corporation. I do not intend to reveal my main character simply because that is not relevant to this venture. I am however, willing to do a number of other things to establish some level of trust.
Unfortunately it is very relevant to releasing an IPO, mostly because you have no one to vouch for you and no security measures in place to make you do not run off with everything.
In past IPOs' mains have been revealed to trusted members of the investment community with the knowledge they would be outed if the IPO turned out to be a scam. <sig>
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Posted - 2007.10.17 05:32:00 -
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Originally by: Anne Temple
Originally by: Shar Tegral
Originally by: Anne Temple As stated before I am more than willing to allow access to this corporation for auditing purposes. As a result of my admittedly lacking reputation I am also willing to allow someone into the corporation in order to have access to all assets and ensure security. I do not have something like this in place currently but I am not opposed to doing so. Should a respected member of the community or a major share holder wish to do so I will even hand over CEO of the corporation but I would need some reassurance of my own that I will not lose what I have invested personally in this corp.
To be honest, I'm impressed at what you are willing to do. It does go along way to providing security but there are still complications that can come along. However if you can find someone who is willing to take that step, then I'm sure you may find people a bit more open to your proposal. Might I add, you probably jumped into the deep water way too soon and too fast. If I were you I'd cancel my "for sale" thread, edit the title of this one to "APEX IPO Idea Discussions", and absorb every iota of advice (even hostile) that comes your way. You are new, which is no crime. But you still need to learn some of the basics that inspire confidence from the community at large. Mind you, I always say you can buck the system (I do) but if you don't have the reputation to go along with your maverick attempt... it'll likely end badly.
I appreciate the advice, I have no problem taking constructive criticism and there are already many good ideas posted here. I will leave the sales thread open, just because as I said the shares will remain on sale for two weeks and if I don't get the minimum investment I'll refund the ISK. If that happens I will not rule out a future IPO.
Yes but if you end up changing your IPO agreement that isn't exactly fair to the people who (might) have already invested.
So until you know your IPO isn't going to change you really shouldn't be accepting payment for shares. Its not like putting this off a week is going to hurt any, hell it might help. <sig>
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Posted - 2007.10.17 07:17:00 -
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Did you bother to ask LaVista Vista, Ionia or Ricdic their permission before you decided to go name dropping? <sig>
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Posted - 2007.10.17 07:48:00 -
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Originally by: tai shang I dont see why it matters. I only speak to them because I have invested in their corporations. and in others as well. some good investments, some bad. the fact that I speak to them on eve chat is significant only because THEY are significant. So? I speak with them. big deal. there's nothing incriminating about that.
Name dropping is still name dropping and if you aren't on close terms with someone it is considered very rude. <sig>
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